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on Sat 27 Oct - 17:54
https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Travel/titanic-ii-luxury-vessel-set-sail-2022/story?id=58776942

Does anyone else think this is an incredibly bad idea? Why make a replica and name a ship after a doomed ship? It just seems like you tempting fate.
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on Sat 27 Oct - 20:37
I know of a pleasure craft vendor operating a business called ... get this ... Shipwreck Boats. I'm not making this up.

But here's a proposal more along the Titanic II lines. How about a dirigible airship cruise called 'Great Balls of Fire'?

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on Sat 27 Oct - 23:14
It does seem like tempting fate, but hopefully this Titanic won't hit any icebergs end up on the bottom of the Atlantic. I wonder how many takers there will be for it's maiden voyage? I know I wouldn't want to be on it.
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Jane Doe wrote:It does seem like tempting fate, but hopefully this Titanic won't hit any icebergs end up on the bottom of the Atlantic. I wonder how many takers there will be for it's maiden voyage? I know I wouldn't want to be on it.
at the rate we are going there wont be any icebergs left to hit in the arctic...Still I wouldn't want to be on it. This is an almost exact replica of the original with some minor changes. Welded instead of riveted hull proper life boats and modern electronics. I know nothing about shipbuilding so I dont know what the difference between a riveted or welded hull is. I am glad they have enough lifeboats but I would never want those to actually be needed. I dont know much about the original Titanic but I thought there were some design flaws that aided in its sinking? Was that the riveted hull?
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on Sun 28 Oct - 2:04
I know what you mean. It does seem to be rather an unnecessary tempting of fate. I think some of the people who invest in and build these these massive machines may possibly be dogmatic atheists
and scientists, so they may not have much respect for things like 'fate' or other 'superstitions.' Yesterday I read about the billionaire Barry Sherman - "Sherman did not believe in God, free will, altruism or morality.[35] "I find no inconsistency in holding intellectually that life has no meaning, while at the same time being highly motivated to survive and to achieve", he once said.[35] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Sherman

Even though I was very impressed with and enjoyed the large car ferry I traveled on recently, I am not eager to travel on a huge cruise liner.. even if they are miracles of modern engineering. I am not superstitious, just paranoid:-) after seeing the movies The Posiedon Adventure, Titanic and Captain Phillips.

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on Sun 28 Oct - 21:47
Up next, a full scale replica of the Egyptian Pyramids in west Texas.
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on Sun 28 Oct - 22:30
I can understand wanting to build a replica, but it should have been a project to be kept on land, perhaps as a museum or something like that. Making it into a fully functional boat puts me off the idea of ever stepping foot on it, and I think a lot of people are going to feel the same way.
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on Mon 12 Nov - 16:50
I think it's rather sacrilegious consider the first Titanic is a cemetery. The numbers of the 911 flights have been retired, why not ships that have gone down with their crews and passengers. Is the Andrea Doria or Lusitania next? Just out to make a quick buck.
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on Thu 6 Dec - 11:00
No I don't think it was the riveted hull; it was an early compartmentalized hull, so that if there was a breach it could seal that section off & prevent flooding the entire bottom. But Titanic didn't strike dead-on, Smith turned to avoid a direct collision & that cause tears along the entire side. So compartments couldn't help. Had they rammed their bow they might've stayed afloat longer, but who truly knows?
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on Sun 24 Feb - 19:24
I also heard something about the steel having been bottom of the barrel cheap on the original. Too thin for one.

Of riveting vs welding, its like asking if nails or screws are better (usually screws, but 50 nails of a similar size will usually hold better than 1 screw). It really is more of a question of the whole design of the thing. If the original had really strong rivets every few inches and the new version has some weak-ass tack welds... then I would prefer riveting. But if it is heavy-duty welding? It'll be great.

Personally, I would rivet for strength, and then weld for water-tight seal and added strength.

If the original was just riveted, they probably had some cushioned layer where the sheets met that provided the seal.
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