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Sun 25 Feb 2018 - 16:56
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Sun 25 Feb 2018 - 17:00
If its possible this woukd be good to add another layer of security and privacy for us .
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Sun 25 Feb 2018 - 18:05
Hi, Consang and Celes,

I’ve already kicked this idea around with Jane. Yes, it’d be really good, and really cheap too — only $5 or so. The stumbling block is how to pay for it with full anonymity. There are ways to protect privacy — partially. But we need a way to pay for it while protecting privacy totally. If you can come up with that, please suggest away.

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Tue 27 Feb 2018 - 19:34
how about forming an anonymous limited partnership or company. the people in charge are managing partners and the person paying can be designated a treasurer, thereby not personally attaching a name to it.
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Tue 27 Feb 2018 - 19:36
bunny4med wrote:how about forming an anonymous limited partnership or company. the people in charge are managing partners and the person paying can be designated a treasurer, thereby not personally attaching a name to it.

I came up with a much simpler solution, which I've relayed to Jane: buy a Visa gift card anonymously with cash and use that to buy credits on forumactif.fr to pay for the SSL certificate. Don't know how it's worked out.

This explains how it's done:

http://help.forumotion.com/t150481-new-ssl-certificates-are-now-available-for-forumotion-forums-possibility-to-run-forums-in-https

http://help.forumotion.com/t150650-ssl-certificate-guide-for-a-success-forum-migration-to-https

http://help.forumotion.com/t1219-credits-management

The admins should check out the forms of payment that forumactif.fr accepts. A working knowledge of French would probably be helpful. Smile

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Tue 27 Feb 2018 - 19:40
From my understanding, Delaware's a good US state for anonymous shell companies. But they're not *truly* anonymous, I think? there's almost always a paper trail. There's ways you can invest in certain banks anonymously too, I believe; again probably not truly anonymous. We could maybe work around that through an escrow company though.
Guh. I asked my sis about this maybe a year ago but I don't think she's had time for it. Remind me to ask her about it again sometime.
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Tue 27 Feb 2018 - 20:22
Hopefully no need for anything that complicated, Sleepy. See my post above.

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Tue 27 Feb 2018 - 22:53
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UN, check your inbox Smile
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Tue 27 Feb 2018 - 23:12
Got it, Jane. Please check your inbox and Protonmail. Smile

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Wed 28 Feb 2018 - 18:01
I'm looking forwards to what you've thought of ^_^ we really do need HTTPS
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Wed 14 Mar 2018 - 11:25
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Here's a suggestion I got from someone who is thinking of joining the forum:

" If you haven't looked into it before, you might consider pasting the site's traffic through Cloudflare, it's a free SSL encryption service. "

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Wed 14 Mar 2018 - 13:12
Jane and I are scheming. Please stay tuned.

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Tue 3 Jul 2018 - 21:24
Jane, just checking in. Did my idea work?

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Tue 3 Jul 2018 - 23:08
Sorry UN, it's been a while, please PM me... I've gotten completely sidetracked and aren't sure which plan you were on about :S
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Tue 3 Jul 2018 - 23:14
Hi, Jane, I’d suggested buying a Visa gift card using cash and using that to pay for the HTTPS. It’s only about $5 or so. Completely anonymous, if it works.

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Tue 3 Jul 2018 - 23:16
I never got around to it because I kept forgetting to buy one Sad Oops, memory like a sieve when I'm shopping.
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Wed 4 Jul 2018 - 2:08
sleepingrain wrote:From my understanding, Delaware's a good US state for anonymous shell companies. But they're not *truly* anonymous, I think? there's almost always a paper trail. There's ways you can invest in certain banks anonymously too, I believe; again probably not truly anonymous. We could maybe work around that through an escrow company though.
Guh. I asked my sis about this maybe a year ago but I don't think she's had time for it. Remind me to ask her about it again sometime.
In Florida you can form a double llc Basically its an llc whose primary owner is another llc thats owned by the other llc making it the most anonymous form of company you can form. So lets say I have 123llc as my public facing company. If someone looks up the owner of 123llc they will find its 456llc, then if they check to see who owns 456llc its 123llc. With a traditional llc anyone can check to see who owns the llc. Most states dont allow double blind llc's

heres some more info on it and a a link to a company that can serve as a registered agent for it.

https://www.floridaregisteredagent.com/florida-double-llc/
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Wed 4 Jul 2018 - 10:38
Mr Reese, not to put too fine a point on it, but that sounds hugely complicated and expensive for a job where a $5 Visa gift card would do. But it might be useful for other purposes where a LLC is really needed.

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Sun 25 Nov 2018 - 7:41
Was there any progress on this?
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Wed 25 Dec 2019 - 9:31
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Hi, Jane,

Now that I’m an admin, I can allllllmost make this happen. Smile

I’ve successfully put 3000 credits into the forum. That’ll be good for six years of SSL certificates, which are the magic needed to enable HTTPS.

One thing needs to be done to enable HTTPS. Only you (as forum founder) can spend the credits to buy the HTTPS certificate. In the Admin panel, go to Misc->Spend Credits->SSL Certificate. Message me on Wire if you need help.

We needn’t have worried, anyway. Forumotion never gets the credit card information. A separate service validates the purchase. And the payment is to Forumotion and doesn’t identify KS.

Merry Christmas!

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Mon 30 Dec 2019 - 0:26
I've followed your instructions, but it is only giving me four options:

storage, ads, domain name and copyright... I'll try to figure it out.
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Mon 30 Dec 2019 - 0:42
It seems that it wants me to upgrade the forum, at a cost of 3600 credits per year for the one above the free option and that ssl is a part of the package, it also includes increased storage space, optimized CEO, advanced permissons, and an external domain name. I wish I could get SSL on it's own if it costed less credits because we don't actually need all the added extras at this stage... that is where I need your help because I think you came across that option where I did not. Obviously since we both have admin access now you can send me a link to the relevant page in PM, you can't do it because you're not the founder. I've PMed you before I actually spend the credits, just in case I did anything wrong and clicked the wrong options. I also need to know your paypal details so I can send you the money I owe you for the ssl (or complete upgrade as the case may be).
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Mon 30 Dec 2019 - 1:17
Jane, please see my post above on 27 Feb. It contains some links to Forumotion tutorials on how to add SSH.

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Mon 30 Dec 2019 - 2:03
All done now. I've had to upgrade the forum to the advanced package, the link you sent redirected me to the page for upgrading the forum. 3600 credits, but well spent. From hereon in, I will pay for next year... I will add the credits month by month until I've enough to pay for it by next december.
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