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    Mon 31 Jul - 7:06
    LoveIsLove - Friends of Lily flower symbol
    Hi CristinaShy, I'm writing up a wikipedia page on Consanguinamory, and I was wondering if we could use the Friends of Lily flower symbol as a symbol of Consanguinamory in the wikipedia page. And if so, could you put the image under a suitable license that would allow me to upload it to wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:File_copyright_tags#For_image_creators ) for example, the Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 4.0 license or the Free Art license would work, or any of the other licenses listed on that page.

    If you prefer to retain copyright rights and not release it under a license suitable for uploading to wikipedia that is completely fine and understandable and I'll be sure not to upload it to wikipedia.

    Progress of the Consanguinamory wikipedia page can be found in this thread: http://ks2016.forumactif.fr/t586-creating-a-wikipedia-page-on-consanguinamory which links to the rough draft on the wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Loveislove89/sandbox .
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    Fri 15 Jul - 10:06
    CristinaShy - thank you
    it seems that your personal writing to me has helped me emotionally as well. I mean, It makes me cherish even more the memories of the many months I carried them before they died. I sang to them, we played games where one would poke his foot out and i would rub his foot through my stomach. they also liked to carry high up near my heart, I think to hear my heartbeat better. I used to talk to them constantly... Even though they never saw my face, we did have a special bond. They knew my voice, my heartbeat, and i am sure they felt the love when i sang them lullaby songs.I wish I could have had some time with them outside the womb, but it is what it is.

    I am so glad you have things from your dad that you can keep with you and remind you of the good times. Small things like that can be a great comfort and I am glad you find comfort in them. My heart breaks for you, especially since i have lost so many, not just my children but my grandparents as well. They pretty much raised me. Loss is so..... I don't even have the words for it. I don't think i would want to live without my brother. My heart goes out to you. Thank you so much for reaching out to me. My 4th childs birthday was july 4, so the last couple weeks have been especially difficult and your letter has given me great comfort. I just wanted you to know how good your timing was and how it is helping me get through one of the several death dates I become depressed about year after year. So with that said, thank you, from my heart, I am grateful to have met you.
  3. Thu 14 Jul - 12:35
    TBD1982 - Living with Loss
    Cristinashy,

    I wanted to send you a private message rather than posting to the forums to say "thank you" personally for the kind and thoughtful response to my introduction and joining of the group. I'm just overwhelmed at finding this community of inidividuals who understand everything I (and Dad) struggled with.

    I grieve for the loss of your babies. Not just the incredible pain of their passing but the loss of "what might have been" for them and for you. And I completely understand that feeling of not wanting to go on, the thoughts of ending it all to be with them again. I went through a very deep depression for almost a year after Dad died and while functional on the outside, I was dying day by day on the inside. Looking back on that time, I realize I was essentially sleepwalking through life, such as it was.

    Like you, I celebrate anniversaries and special days -- our "honeymoon" at the beginning of April (what we termed the week away together when we came out to one another and made the decision that changed our lives), his death on 8 March, and his birthday on 15 August. Those are usually quiet days for me, filled with reflection and yes, mourning. But I also know that Dad wanted me to be happy and live a full life and it's that knowledge that gave and continues to give me strength.

    I'm fortunate in that I not only have memories but also tangible reminders of him. His big antique partners desk he used at home is in my home office now. I have his cufflinks and the signet ring he wore (and which, now resized, I wear as well). Each night I go to sleep in the big four poster bed I bought when I moved from an apartment into my first townhouse in DC -- he was with me when I picked it out and shared with me so long. [Sidenote: because of my job and his practice/clients in DC, we had an arrangement where he would stay with me almost two to three weeks/month for almost 15 years. Ostensibly he was using the guest room to save money on a hotel and costs for his practice but, of course, that was for "cover."]. Even now, ten years later, there are early mornings when I'm still half asleep when I can almost feel him beside/behind me.

    A big warm hug of support and thanks to you. Stay strong. Celebrate each day. And know that you are definitely not alone.

    Dave, son and and lover of Stephen (1930-2016)
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