Introduction

Hi everyone. New here and on the hunt for any and all advice I can get, from reddit, to quora, to whatever random forums pop up when I Google search.

M27, idk if I should say in love or in lust with my 49 y/o mother. All I know is I want to be with her. Idk if I want it for just a fling and to experiment with the taboo, or I want it to be something more romantic and long term. Either way, and I'd be fine with both, i just want to be with and back inside my mother more than anything. All three holes, I want to be their and her king.

The issues I'm running into are as follows:
A.) Shes married to my father and he's still in the picture. And it's not like I want anything ill-fated or whatever to happen to my father. Just kinda wanna take his place as my mother's only penis.
B.) We've never really talked much about sex. It's come up, but never extensively. When I was a teen going through puberty, she kind of just let me learn in school, and through porn I was able to sneak, and man the day I discovered mom/son porn, I remember thinking "I'm not the only one that wants this and these guys are getting it!" Only to of course realize later as I got older, fakecest because porn, but still. And then when I became sexually active with some partners growing up I kinda learned on my own, she and I never had "the talk". And she's never really shown any interest in me either, like i'm also noticing when she gets a hair cut, a new shirt or pants, which being 49 she's trying to stay hip and has started wearing yoga pants and my Lord sometimes it's hard to keep myself from committing a crime and just doing her. I'd never force myself on her, please don't think that, but man sometimes its rough, but anyways I compliment her on things like that. Never any return.
C.) She's never once approached me about my antics from early teenager all the way up to even my early twenties, from stealing her panties to use to masturbate, both clean and dirty I didn't discriminate. If she had just thrown all the dirty ones in the laundry sometimes I would sneak a clean pair and use them, and put them back HOPING it would send the signal. Unfortunately to no avail. I would openly masturbate around the house "pretending" I thought no one else was home when I knew it was just her and I. And I would walk in or try to peak at her in the shower, getting changed, everything. Never once did she approach me.
D.) We are close, she's been there for me through breakups, through successful times, and we do talk, politics, religion, history, philosophy, movies, tv shows, what for us is pretty casual conversation, sex can come up but it never lasts long as a conversation. It's not that I'd mind if it went on more, but she just tends to ignore it or try to change the subject again as quickly as possible, if that makes sense? Like the most I've ever really gotten out of her is that she knows I'm having sex and wants me to be safe, and I am, but that's all it's ever really been. Nothing like about interests or turn ons/offs, anything. And I'm afraid to breach that topic out of fear of her telling my father because, I know she can keep a secret, and she's good at it, growing up Christmas was always so surprising, same with birthdays and things like that, but she's one of those wives that her and my father tell each other everything, and that's not exactly something I wanna deal with. Don't wanna have that conversation ever brought up by both of them, don't really want my father anywhere even nearly involved with that conversation.
E.) Aside from previously mentioned about knowing I have sex, I just remembered she has once told me that she's only ever been with one other guy before my father. So I guess thinking back on it, there may have been some intimate talk and conversation, but I think I blocked it because it was during one of our deep conversations about religion/history and sex got brought up somehow, and she had told me that. While I know that probably would have been a perfect opportunity to have brought up incest, my father was in the room. So, I'm thinking my biggest obstacle here is him, or my mother's inability to potentially keep some alone time, if we were to ever get any to talk, between us.
It's not like I haven't thought about asking her to take a trip with me, or go to the movies, or whatever, it's just that I'm not sure how she'd react at all. Especially because, as I stated before, I've used clean and dirty panties of hers as a masturbating tool and put them back HOPING she'd find that, and I'm sure she did but it never got brought up. So for me to just come right out and say "Mom, I want to be your lover. I want to potentially actually marry you, like I used to tell you when I was a kid. I've never wanted to be back home inside of you than anything." Seems a bit out of left field. And again telling my father more or less everything, I'd prefer if it was kept a secret, for obvious reasons. But I don't think my mother knows how much of a good time she'd have with me. I'm not claiming to know or really want to know her sex life with my father, all I know is, it's probably pretty vanilla for as reserved as she is about it in conversation, and I want to open up her world, I want to show her and make hers all the skills I've acquired over my sexual career. But I have ZERO idea how to overcome the roadblocks of doing so.

So here I am. Looking to get insight from people in relationships with their mother, also seeking relationships with their mother, just having casual sex with their mother, basically just any mother/son info anyone is willing to give because, well, back to the beginning of my post, I want to be her king, hopefully in and out of bed, but I'd honestly just settle for in bed.

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