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Tue 3 Jul 2018 - 18:47
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Hello everyone. I'm Kyle, 22. I'm not in a relationship of this sort myself (I'm sorry, I couldn't even begin to spell the term for it), although I'm very interested in the subject. Most of my interest stems from the fact that I am adopted, and researching that process and its possible implications on the child is what led me to learn about GSA. I apologise if my terminology is a bit off. I'm still new to this. Nice to talk to you all.
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Tue 3 Jul 2018 - 20:18
Hi, Kyle! Welcome to Kindred Spirits, and thanks for coming. I’ll upgrade you to full membership as soon as I’m done writing this.

You had a very good idea to learn more about GSA before it happens to you, if it’s going to. Please let us know if you would like any specific information or help. In the meantime, enjoy the forum!

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Tue 3 Jul 2018 - 20:31
Hey, welcome Smile
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Tue 3 Jul 2018 - 20:42
Thank you for welcoming me everyone, and thank you for reminding me of that term. I'll try to learn how to spell it, but I can't make any promises Very Happy
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Tue 3 Jul 2018 - 21:05
No problem, just say “consang” and everyone will know what you mean. Smile

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Tue 3 Jul 2018 - 22:45
I second what UN said, if you have trouble saying Consanguinamory just say consang for short.
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Tue 3 Jul 2018 - 23:15
A lot of people have problems spelling consanguinamory, so using consang for short is fine... and welcome to KS Smile
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Wed 4 Jul 2018 - 3:36
Welcome!

Sorry, I got tired of people using the same word for child rape and loving relationships so I coined that term. I wish it was shorter and easier. "Double love" also has been used.

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Wed 4 Jul 2018 - 12:44
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No need to apologise. I like that there's an alternative term. And thank you for the suggestion. Consang is far easier to remember. ☺️
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Wed 4 Jul 2018 - 21:33
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Very interesting link! I thought I actually knew the difference between consang and incest, but I didn't think the two were *that* different. Thank you!
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Wed 4 Jul 2018 - 21:59
Two key distinctions: Both parties are adults and both parties consent.

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Wed 4 Jul 2018 - 22:05
Look, I know this forum is for adults only and that's fine, but I have an issue with that definition of the term if it leaves out teens close in age. Consanguinamory should apply to that too. Teens close in age can consent to each other. It's adult/minor stuff that cannot be considered since they are not on the same level. Just wanted to say that..
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Wed 4 Jul 2018 - 22:25
I think something like that is suggested but isn't said. Like with any sexual and romantic acts. When interracial or gay relationships are brought up, people usually resort to the "consneting adults" argument (with good reason of course), but hardly anyone believes that teens close in age can't partake in those relationships. At least, none who are okay with interracialism and homosexuality.
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Wed 4 Jul 2018 - 22:28
Hi, blackroseheart,

This has been extensively discussed here: https://ks2016.forumactif.fr/t650-exclusion-of-those-with-underage-histories

Please be gentle with this innocent intro thread. Smile

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blackroseheart wrote:Look, I know this forum is for adults only and that's fine, but I have an issue with that definition of the term if it leaves out teens close in age. Consanguinamory should apply to that too. Teens close in age can consent to each other. It's adult/minor stuff that cannot be considered since they are not on the same level. Just wanted to say that..

Yes, the term does also apply to minors close in age, like for instance a brother and sister who are born a year or two apart. It only ceases to be consanguinamory where there is an adult and a minor (or two minors with a large age difference), because minors rely on adults to look after them which makes the relationship too unequal.
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Wed 4 Jul 2018 - 22:33
Oh, thank you, Jane. Now I don’t have to split the thread. Smile

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Wed 4 Jul 2018 - 22:41
UN, why would you need to split the thread?
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Wed 4 Jul 2018 - 22:52
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I'm not trying to be the opposite of "gentle". I just have an issue with the way things are said sometimes... and this is one of those areas. I get that it's implied and I wasn't trying to say anything negative to the new person. I'm just tired of certain phrasing that makes it seem like teens close in age are somehow bad for having a consang relationship.
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Wed 4 Jul 2018 - 23:26
Jane Doe wrote:UN, why would you need to split the thread?

Because there’s a debate brewing here that doesn’t have a lot to do with Kyle’s intro? confused

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Thu 5 Jul 2018 - 22:01
blackroseheart wrote:I'm not trying to be the opposite of "gentle". I just have an issue with the way things are said sometimes... and this is one of those areas. I get that it's implied and I wasn't trying to say anything negative to the new person. I'm just tired of certain phrasing that makes it seem like teens close in age are somehow bad for having a consang relationship.

In which case we should perhaps be more careful how exactly we phrase things. I don't think anyone is specifically trying to say that teen consangs are in any way bad, only that they should abstain from sex until they're of age, for all the same reasons that their regular counterprarts should. They should however be able to date in an age appropriate manner.

UN, don't worry, I doubt it would turn into a debate.

Also, apologies to Kyle for the amount of posts on this thread which aren't really related to his introduction.
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Thu 5 Jul 2018 - 22:11
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Don't apologise. It's an interesting discussion, and very civil too.

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