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Wed 22 Feb 2023 - 10:54
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Hi ! I'm not very good with introductions but I'll try my best.

I am 24 years old and I am in a relationship with my brother who is 26 years old. We have been a couple for 6 years and we currently live in the same house.
So far our relationship is going pretty well, despite a multitude of obstacles presenting themselves to us almost daily.
We live in France and here incest between consenting adults is legal but we have decided to hide our relationship so as not to isolate ourselves from the rest of society and not to harm our professional careers and our social relations.
I am very happy to have found this forum and I hope to be able to discuss with people who are in the same situation as me.

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Wed 22 Feb 2023 - 12:09
Welcome! You've found friends and allies here. Very glad to hear things are going well for you!

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Wed 22 Feb 2023 - 12:24
Welcome to the group, plenty of good people here.

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Wed 22 Feb 2023 - 21:07
DangerouslyInLove, welcome aboard! I’ve upgraded your account. I’m looking ending more from you in our member areas, to which you now have access.

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Wed 22 Feb 2023 - 22:39
Welcome to the group. Can you tell us more about how you’ve both had to deal with your relationship, is it totally secret. Does anyone else know? Where do you want it to go?

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Thu 23 Feb 2023 - 0:56
Welcome to KS. Looking forward to your posts and participation.
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Thu 23 Feb 2023 - 10:37
Welcome to Kindred Spirits, Dangerously, and congratulations on your love with your brother! Relax and make yourselves at home, you’re among friends here. Smile

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Thu 23 Feb 2023 - 13:16
KittyCat wrote:Welcome! You've found friends and allies here. Very glad to hear things are going well for you!

Olderson1991 wrote:Welcome to the group, plenty of good people here.

FullMarriageEquality wrote:DangerouslyInLove, welcome aboard! I’ve upgraded your account. I’m looking ending more from you in our member areas, to which you now have access.

hiddenromance wrote:Welcome to KS.  Looking forward to your posts and participation.

Unowen17 wrote:Welcome to Kindred Spirits, Dangerously, and congratulations on your love with your brother! Relax and make yourselves at home, you’re among friends here. Smile

Stay safe,
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Thank you all so much for the warm welcome  Introduction 263a

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Thu 23 Feb 2023 - 14:23
Epicureanstu wrote:Welcome to the group. Can you tell us more about how you’ve both had to deal with your relationship, is it totally secret. Does anyone else know? Where do you want it to go?

When we started oficially dating we were both in college and I managed to get in the same university as him. We didn't see each other frequently on campus but the advantage was that we were in the same city and our mutual apartments were within 15 minutes walk of each other.
When he graduated and bought his own house two years ago I moved in with him.

So far we haven't said anything to anyone. We thought about talking to a psychologist but didn't in the end.
We had a group of friends who were suspicious, they often laughed about my brother and I spending so much time together so we cut ties with them.
I also think our mother suspect something because she has been acting differently with me since I was 16, it was around that age that I started doing stupid things to get my brother's attention but she never told me anything so I can't be sure.  

As far as our future, I don't know. We can't get married and we're too afraid to have kids so I guess we'll just live together until death do us part.

I'm sorry if some of the sentences I make don't make much sense, English isn't my forte  Introduction 1f605

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Thu 23 Feb 2023 - 19:22
All makes perfect sense to me. Your English is great 👍

Why are you too afraid to have children out of interest?
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Fri 24 Feb 2023 - 12:07
Epicureanstu wrote:All makes perfect sense to me. Your English is great 👍

Why are you too afraid to have children out of interest?

Birth defects. I would rather not have a child than have one and risk him/her suffering his/her whole life because of me. I admire the bravery of those who are in a consanguineous relationship and yet make children but unfortunately I am not brave enough for that.
I also don't want to have to explain myself to our parents who will try to find out who the father is.
If we want our relationship to last, I guess we have no other choice, it's part of the sacrifices to be made that we already anticipated a few years ago when we agreed on this relationship...

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Sat 25 Feb 2023 - 11:21
Makes sense, Dangerously. I know several other consang couples who’ve gotten pregnant, but no one has told me about having a child with birth defects. On the other hand, the risk of miscarriages seems to be higher, and of course it’s traumatic to lose a pregnancy. Your choice, and your brother’s, in any case.

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Sat 25 Feb 2023 - 23:59
Welcome!

I'd be interested to know how your relationship began. By that I mean how did you come to the decision to become a couple? What was it like for the two of you to move from a platonic sibling relationship to a committed romantic one?

In your life together now, do you primarily relate to each other as a couple, as siblings, or as a combination of the two roles?

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Sun 26 Feb 2023 - 20:07
OtherHans wrote:Welcome!
I'd be interested to know how your relationship began.  By that I mean how did you come to the decision to become a couple?  What was it like for the two of you to move from a platonic sibling relationship to a committed romantic one?


The beginning of our relationship was unfortunately not very happy. When he was in college while I was still in high school, I missed him a lot and I could only see him on breaks, and during one of them I confessed my feelings to him, I had feelings for him for about 3 years, since I was 15.
He politely rejected me and stopped talking to me for a few weeks. At the time I was very upset and felt let down but in hindsight I realized that he reacted in a completely normal way, he never did anything to indicate that he loved me in anything other than a family way.
After we started talking again I begged asked him to give it a chance and he agreed, we came to an agreement with a set of dos and don'ts.

At first it was very awkward, my brother always felt very guilty, he had trouble touching me, looking at me and even our communication deteriorated when before we could spend hours talking about anything and everything without any problem.
Over time the discomfort has faded and today we can't go a day without seeing each other! Our romantic relationship was not innate but it has developed over time.

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In your life together now, do you primarily relate to each other as a couple, as siblings, or as a combination of the two roles?

It all depends on where we are, when we are at home we are a combination of couple & siblings, strangely I don't want him not to consider me as his sister anymore and vice versa, it feels strange.
When we are in public we are strictly brother and sister, a few years ago I read a post on Reddit about an Italian couple of brother and sister who moved from their hometown and pretended to be married in a new city, I suggested to my brother that we do this but we came to the conclusion that we should not lie to people to avoid trouble in the future.
However I sometimes like to call my brother pets names when there are not too many people around or no people we know to tease him haha.
When we are in other countries however we are exclusively a couple because we know that we are safe and so we enjoy it. A few months ago we were in Switzerland and we were able to share a hotel room, go to restaurants, hold hands and kiss in public.

I hope I was able to answer your questions  Introduction 1f604

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Sat 4 Mar 2023 - 1:12
Your relations when away from "home" is very much like my mother and I did. We despirately wanted to be out. Maybe we should have come to France.

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