FORUM RULES: ATTENTION ALL NEWCOMERS

Welcome to Kindred Spirits! There is so much more to the forum than the areas marked “PUBLIC” you already see before you get approved for membership. Read & follow the rules to get membership. We try to be a safe and supportive community for people who are/were in relationships with, or are attracted to, their adult relatives, and allies.

Please read all of the rules below. Also, below the rules is a guide to getting the most out of KS.

These relationships can take on many forms. You are welcome here whether your experiences or desires involve:

—A one-time moment, or a lifetime romance, or something somewhere between

—Recreational sex on top of “customary” family relationships, or a spousal relationship with your close relative, or something somewhere between

—Someone you raised, or someone you were raised by or with, or a close relative you met or reunited with after many years apart

Whether this has been going on for years or is new and you’re trying to figure things out, there is room for you here, if you agree to these rules...

The Rules

(If you need clarification, we elaborate further down.)

1. No pornography or links to it.

2. No dirty stories.

3. No spamming.

4. No hacks/warez/mining or phishing software allowed on the forums, or links to such things.

5. Absolutely no discussion of sex between adults and persons under 18 is allowed, there will be no warnings and it will incur an automatic ban.

6. No harassing, doxxing, or asking for personal details, "proof," or "pics", that includes by PM.

7. You must post your introduction before being upgraded to view and post in the member sections. The introduction must make it clear you (and any current lover) are 18 years of age or older, and should give a sentence or two explaining your interest in this forum. You can post that introduction in this section:
https://ks2016.forumactif.fr/f13-introductions

8. To be redundant, you absolutely MUST be 18 years old or older to join. Any posters found to be underage will be BANNED. The focus of this forum is CONSENTING ADULTS. If you are under the age of 18, please read this and come back when you're of age: http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2017/12/consanguinamorous-youth.html   and    https://consanguinamory.wordpress.com/teenagers-and-consanguinamorous-sexuality/

9. All of the above rules also apply to the chatbox at the bottom of the website, and to any communications you may have with other members off-site, this includes Wire (and similar programs), e-mail, social media, and any messages verbal or textual over the phone (should you decide to swap numbers with another member).

10. No sexually suggestive or explicit usernames.

11. Only ONE account per person is permitted. If two people will be using the same IP address under different accounts, that is okay providing that you tell us in your introductions so that we know about it. This rule is to prevent trolling, and making sure that we don't accidentally ban legitimate users who share an IP address.

12. We will permit no posts which appear to justify anything which would be considered the grooming of minors, so no so-called "grey area" posts please, we take the welfare of children and young people seriously.

13. We will permit no posts about off-topic and unjustifiable sexual acts, such as bestiality, necrophilia or other harmful and immoral acts where informed consent is rendered impossible, including, but not limited to, portraying molestation or sexual assault as acceptable.

14. Our mission is supporting adult relatives who are in consensual relationships, as well as those who were involved in their past. We'd appreciate all members remaining courteous when posting in public or private; rudeness and troublemaking won't be tolerated. Differences of opinion are acceptable, though please don't dismiss or criticize relatives for being involved - there are other forums for that.

15. KS exists as a support forum for people in consanguinamorous relationships and unrequited consangs. While we often discuss the happy and positive things about relationships between close relatives, the experience is far from wonderful for many. This isn’t Literotica.

16. Please do not post a fake story in your introduction or tell fake stories in the nonfiction sections. You may explain your situation, such as curiosity, honestly and/or post your questions in the Introduction area, and maybe they will get answered.


We elaborate on these rules below if you need clarification.

The rules are there to ensure that the forum runs smoothly and we have a supportive and friendly environment in which people can discuss their relationships with other people who are going through the same issues. The rules concerning registration are there to enable us to filter out trolls, spies, underage users, and sexual predators. It is by no means a perfect system, but it does it's job 99% of the time. This gives all upgraded users a level of security that they would not have elsewhere. That's why we ask all people to make an introductory post, so we get a basic idea of what kind of people we're letting in. It need not be an essay, just tell us your age, age of your current partner(s), and your basic circumstance (such as, are you involved, or an ally). You can post that introduction in this section: https://ks2016.forumactif.fr/f13-introductions

Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

Getting the Most from the Forum

You'll get the most out of KS if you are trusted by others here, and if you find others here whom you trust. Trust takes time and involves being a little vulnerable. To help you establish trust here, we suggest you do the following.

• If there is anything you're not sure about, ask and admin or mod. We're pretty friendly and we're there to help.
  
• If you don't feel comfortable posting at first, read some of the threads so that you have an idea of what kind of people we are and what the community is like. This may answer quite a few of your questions.
  
• Contribute to existing discussions, even if you're only seconding what somebody else has already said. This way we can get to know you a little better and it will build your confidence in getting to know others here.
  
• Share some things about yourself, whether they’re about your love interests or not. They don’t have to be big things. You have to trust people a little for them to trust you, and that means being a little vulnerable.
  
• Go slow. You’ve got time.
  
• Try to find friends. Search through back posts and send a PM to someone you’d like to be friends with.
  
• What you see in the posts is only the surface. A lot of activity in KS goes on in PM. (The forum rules still apply to PM.)
  
• Be curious, but not nosy. Most people, consang or not, love to talk about themselves.
  

We hope you enjoy your time on Kindred Spirits and find the friendship and support that you came here for!

Elaboration on the Rules For Clarification

If you're still not clear on the rules after reading below, contact an Administrator or Moderator.

1. No pornography or links to it. This is not a porn, fap, or fetish site. There are plenty of those already. We are here for the serious discussion and support of loving relationships between consenting adults.

2. Likewise, no dirty stories please, this place must be kept clean. We are adults, and sexuality is usually a part of life and can be discussed, but this is not a sex forum. We are here to talk about all aspects of relationships, and that will sometimes include sex, but if you want to write or read sex stories, go someplace like Literotica.

3. No spamming.

4. No hacks/warez/mining or phishing software allowed on the forums, or links to such things.

5. Absolutely no discussion of sex between adults and persons under 18 is allowed, there will be no warnings and it will incur an automatic ban. Also, we know many people had their first sexual experiences as minors, with other minors close in age. It's OK to mention something like "my first experience was when I was young" or "we've been together since we were young," but it is NOT permissible to describe in detail sex acts or encounters clearly engaged in under the age of 18.

6. No harassing, doxxing, or asking for personal details, "proof," or "pics", that includes by PM.

Harassment includes, but is not limited to, attempting any of the following: continuing to contact someone via private message or anywhere off-forum after they have told you not to, doxxing, outing, contacting off-forum personal contacts of a member without permission of the member, stalking, calling people fake or imposters in the open forum, hostile responses in the forum (polite disagreement is OK, pointing out text or imagery posted in the forum that you think is a rule violation is OK), posting/circulating/transmitting off-forum anything from the forum or related chats/communications that can out a member.

Do not share in the forum any information about someone who is or may be involved in consanguinamory that isn’t already public, unless that person has given you permission to do so, and you can prove that. This especially applies to doxxing members, but applies to anyone else as well.

Other than sharing a published news item, do not share their real name, home or work address/location, date of birth, or image even if that is already public. If you had to search it out outside of recognized news sources, it’s probably a no-no.

Do not link the username of a member to any public information without that member’s permission. Example: “Man Caught Committing Incest”. You happen to know that man is a member here. Do not indicate his username when you post the article, unless he has given you permission.


Exceptions:

-You can tell us how a current (but inactive) or past member is doing, as long as it doesn’t reveal sensitive information. Example: “Keith is doing fine. He’s just busy.” is OK. “Keith got promoted and is now VP of Recreation at National Widget Company” is not, unless Keith has told you it is.

-If a politician or other public figure has made a point of speaking out against consanguinamory or has proposed legislation or supported existing laws to discriminate against consanguinamorists and you know she’s having sex with her brother, go ahead and out her if you want.

If you have concerns, such as another member lying about being involved or an ally, send those via PM to an active Administrator. Someone changing insignificant details about their personal life to protect their privacy when sharing their story here is NOT a problem.

It will be up to the discretion of Administrators what counts as unacceptable harassment, or if a member has broken the rules, so when in doubt, ask us via PM or any other way in which you can privately contact us.

7. You must post your introduction before being upgraded to view and post in the member sections. The introduction must make it clear you (and any current lover) are 18 years of age or older, and should give a sentence or two explaining your interest in this forum.

8. To be redundant, you absolutely MUST be 18 years old or older to join. Any posters found to be underage will be BANNED. The focus of this forum is CONSENTING ADULTS. If you are under the age of 18, please read this and come back when you're of age: http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com/2017/12/consanguinamorous-youth.html   and    https://consanguinamory.wordpress.com/teenagers-and-consanguinamorous-sexuality/

9. All of the above rules also apply to the chatbox at the bottom of the website, and to any communications you may have with other members off-site, this includes Wire (and similar programs), e-mail, social media, and any messages verbal or textual over the phone (should you decide to swap numbers with another member).

10. No sexually suggestive or explicit usernames will be tolerated.

11. Only ONE account per person is permitted. If two people will be using the same IP address under different accounts, that is okay providing that you tell us in your introductions so that we know about it. This rule is to prevent trolling, and making sure that we don't accidentally ban legitimate users who share an IP address.

12. We will permit no posts which appear to justify anything which would be considered the grooming of minors, so no so-called "grey area" posts please, we take the welfare of children and young people seriously. This includes suggesting to minors that it’s okay for them to have underage sex with each other or with adults. If you have to ask the question "is it okay to post this?", the chances are it's inappropriate and it shouldn't be here. We know that it is the responsibility of adults, primarily parents & legal guardians, to raise able children to be independent adults. We also know that some adults freely choose relationships with their older relatives, including parents. However, any talk of wanting to have children in order to make them a partner will result in being banned.

13. We will permit no posts about off-topic and unjustifiable sexual acts, such as bestiality, necrophilia or other harmful and immoral acts where informed consent is rendered impossible, including, but not limited to, portraying molestation or sexual assault as acceptable.

14. Our mission is supporting adult relatives who are in consensual relationships, as well as those who were involved in their past. We'd appreciate all members remaining courteous when posting in public or private; rudeness and troublemaking won't be tolerated. Differences of opinion are acceptable, though please don't dismiss or criticize relatives for being involved - there are other forums for that.

15. KS exists as a support forum for people in consanguinamorous relationships and unrequited consangs. While we often discuss the happy and positive things about relationships between close relatives, the experience is far from wonderful for many. This isn’t Literotica. Fear, hiding, broken families, jail time, blackmail, lynching, and suicide attempts can be part of the picture, too. We’ve supported people in every one of these situations. Our members should be either consanguinamorous themselves or supporting other consangs in their personal lives or through activities such as friendship, counseling, journalism, and Internet activism. We don’t give memberships to people who are just here for stories.

16. Kindred Spirits is for discussion and support of people who are, have been, or want to be involved with a close relative or family member, and for their allies. If you’re not yet one of those but you’re genuinely curious and considering being someone in either category, please do not post a fake story in your introduction or tell fake stories in the nonfiction sections. You may explain your situation honestly and/or post your questions in the Introduction area, and maybe they will get answered.

We stress that this is not a porn, erotica, or “dirty story” forum, and anyone harassing members, including in a private message, will be banned.

Jane Doe and Unowen17 and FullMarriageEquality

Dear Jane,

I finally attempted to contact you on KS. My mis-spelled username failed to get me logged on so
I made a new membership. (Oscar1). Stumbling around a now unfamiliar KS, I discovered the correct Username and it still works.
So now I have to delete Oscar1. This new site looks pretty good. I hope you are well. RM

To be fair, you haven't been here in a while so it's not surprising that you forgot your login details. No worries, I will delete 'oscar1' and you can continue to use your account now you have access to it I think you'll find the developments around here to your liking, it's bigger and busier than you remember it. It is good to see you back

Hi Jane. Just to say thank you for deleting Oscar1, and welcoming me back.
Hope you are enjoying life and your family members are all well. Sometimes I wonder, if we spent a few million on
advertising as others have done, we could have a lot more supporters. I noticed one time I came to this site, there were adverts for Sydney real estate. But now the ads have gone. That's a relief. I have difficulties concentrating with such distractions flashing by when I am trying to read. Perhaps I am becoming autistic! Bye for now. xoxo

Sorry for not. My introduction is perhaps impermissible.
Joseph

Sorry, Joseph, I didn't see your intro at all. If you'd like full access, please review the forum rules:

https://ks2016.forumactif.fr/t745-for-the-attention-of-all-newcomers

And then post your intro here:

https://ks2016.forumactif.fr/f13-introductions

Best,
UN

Bump because I notice a couple of zero-post members hanging around.

Best,
UN

Members and prospective members, please note the change to Rule 9. All the KS forum rules apply regardless of whether the communication happens on or off the KS website.

As always, if another member says anything that makes you feel uncomfortable, please screenshot or save the communication and let me or any other admin or mod know. We’ll look into it and do our best to do the right thing. You are our eyes and ears in keeping KS safe.

UN

Couldn't have put it better myself

I added a sentence to Rule 12, clarifying that grooming includes suggesting to minors that it’s okay to have sex with each other or with an adult.

Locking the thread now — it can be reopened if needed.

Best,
UN

The ninjas have added Rule 14:

“14. Our mission is supporting adult relatives who are in consensual relationships, as well as those who were involved in their past. We'd appreciate all members remaining courteous when posting in public or private; rudeness and troublemaking won't be tolerated. Differences of opinion are acceptable, though please don't dismiss or criticize relatives for being involved - there are other forums for that.”

Best,
UN

Added Rule 15:

15. KS exists as a support forum for people in consanguinamorous relationships and unrequited consangs. While we often discuss the happy and positive things about relationships between close relatives, the experience is far from wonderful for many. This isn’t Literotica. Fear, hiding, broken families, jail time, blackmail, lynching, and suicide attempts can be part of the picture, too. We’ve supported people in every one of these situations. Our members should be either consanguinamorous themselves or supporting other consangs in their personal lives or through activities such as friendship, counseling, journalism, or Internet activism. We don’t give memberships to people who are just here for stories.

Stay safe,
UN

Bumping this thread to underscore that KS is a support forum, not a fetish or porn forum. There are plenty of those around, so if that’s what you want, you can take your pick. Elsewhere.

Stay safe,
UN

Bump

Peace,
UN