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Mon 5 Jul 2021 - 11:08
https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2021/07/03/beaver-co-siblings-facing-incest-charges-after-sexual-relationship-revealed-to-police/

After reading about the arrest of a man for ACI in 'Freedom' I decided to dig out this old petition. It is much shorter than the  Czech Republic Petition I am still working on,  which  is about 10 pages long (and getting longer the more I revise it:-(

http://chng.it/nKxs2h5NKm

Please don't sign the petition if you don't truely support equal rights for ACI oriented (CIAO)  people.

According to Wikipedia Pennsylvania is quite progressive and already has" State-wide partner benefits through same-sex marriage, civil unions, domestic partnership, designated beneficiary agreements, or reciprocal beneficiary relationships.... The range of benefits is generally greater in such cities as San Francisco, New York City, and Washington, D.C."

" Although similar to marriage, a domestic partnership does not confer any of the myriad rights and responsibilities of marriage afforded to married couples by the federal government"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_partnership_in_the_United_States#Legal_rights

Must Ciao people continue to miss out on the myriad of benefits of legal marriage, and also those from domestic partnerships that not long ago were denied to LBGT people?

Please sign the petition if you support equal rights to Ciao, consang and consanguinamorous people.

Thank you.
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Sun 3 Oct 2021 - 11:01
Today I read more about the 'Freedom' case in Pennsylvannia. Things have advanced slightly.

https://beavercountian.com/content/cops-courts/freedom-borough-man-challenging-constitutionality-of-pas-incest-laws

Wikipedia says 'According to the United States Census Bureau, the (Freedom) borough has a total land area of 0.6 of a square mile. The town stood up for Abolition in that past. It is a long way from the State's Supreme Court at Harrisburg. Has anyone else found more information about this case?



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Sun 3 Oct 2021 - 15:02
Might not be an ideal case, Abe. The police were called to their house for a “physical assault.” If one of them assaulted the other…

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Mon 4 Oct 2021 - 1:13
Maybe you're right UN. This site ( https://www.womenslaw.org/laws/pa/restraining-orders/protection-abuse-orders-pfa/basic-information/what-legal-definition ) suggests that incest would be considered domestic abuse in PA.

However the Times report back in July did not say the half-sibling sister reported this but said "police were dispatched to the Fourth Avenue home the half-siblings share around 11:30 p.m. May 14 after reports of a physical assault." ( so perhaps neighbours heard a domestic dispute. We know DV has increased a lot because of Covid and additional stress on families).

"During the investigation, the woman told police her brother attacked her and then fled as officers arrived." This suggests she did not phone police to make a complaint but may have been 'nudged' or tricked into it by interfering others. The article does not say she had any wounds or if it was an attack of words a pillow or a machine gun. Perhaps he was provoked, she attacked him first and he was defending himself and ran away from her attacks. Lovers' tiffs, who can understand them?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violence_against_men

We don't have details of what happened or if the couple are irreconciliable or not.

Let's not be too pessimistic yet! Best
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Sat 16 Oct 2021 - 22:32
Looks like the defendant is trying to assert that Pennsylvania’s law is unconstitutional.

https://beavercountian.com/content/cops-courts/freedom-borough-man-challenging-constitutionality-of-pas-incest-laws

As noted in the Media forum.

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Sun 17 Oct 2021 - 23:18
Thanks UN.

Amazing still is the lack lack of clarity about what 'constitutional' means

Each state has its own constitution, and then there is the USA constitution.

Looking at the Pennsylvannia Consitution, Wiki says "Since 1776, Pennsylvania's Constitution has undergone five versions. The current Constitution entered into force in 1968, and has been amended numerous times." So it looks like the thing isn't written in stone but is adjusted from time to time as a small group of men, most of whom went to private and (mainly religion schools to be indoctrinated) decide suits them.

Article 28 looks open to some creative interpretation.
"§ 28. Prohibition against denial or abridgment of equality of rights because of sex.

Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania because of the sex of the individual.

(May 18, 1971, P.L.767, J.R.2)


Funnily enough the Wikipedia article on 'sex' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex doesn't even mention homosexuality but only 'homosporous fern species.'

Of course every state will have its own set of legal dictionaries.

Someone wrote 'War is a racket.'
It seems the law is a bit of a racket too:-) "i.e. 3. an illegal or dishonest scheme for obtaining money "

Cheers


Who gets to interpret what 'the sex of the individual means?

It doesn't say 'the gender' of the individual.

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Mon 18 Oct 2021 - 1:35
AbeSarah, you are right on again. The government doesn't see the "value" in us. It's all about how much money we could generate.

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